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Old salt MD's avatar

I hope you came down to the WarBird area for some real military history.

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Bob Feldtman's avatar

sure did. spent most time there, then at the ultralight area. We were only there Monday. Saw the big plane from Georgetown TX, right down the road from me.. QB buddies are on the crew. Drooled in the Cirrus display (we took two Cirrus and my 182..) One of my buddies getting a new Cirrus -

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Conway Judge's avatar

Hey doc, thank you for this brilliant summary

I am a former CBRNE medic from New Zealand

It's quite cool reading this because a lot of what you explain is true here too

Old kit, new environments, because they just don't make them like they used to.

I developed CFS/ME about a decade ago

And spent years pouring deep into the possible root causes of this syndrome hitting multiple dead ends.

I then began looking at conditions like

Gulf War Syndrome

Chronic Lyme disease

Floxed, the side effects of flueroquinolone antibiotics and Ciprofloxacin

Senescence and aging

The role(s) of mitochondria and it's own genome within cells and the findings associated with all these conditions above related to mitochondrial dysfunction

And then Long Covid became the craze

And Long Vax Syndrome

It's all quite a spanner in the works of the little factories that make up our tissues - organs - bodies.

Crazy times huh

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Bob Feldtman's avatar

And................. you mentioned flouroquinolones. My buddies at Baylor Coll Medicine have been doing research on those and find a strong association with enlarged or ruptured aortic aneurysms.. They actually dis the real SCIENCE and tested it in rats.. ditto... So now there is a black box warning on US packaging of them. I told me medical records bot that I am allergic to them.. so that some wet behind the ears and years - intern doesn't just give them to me without asking by writing an order. Scares the S__t out of me to end up with a ruptured thoracic aorta.

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Conway Judge's avatar

Mitochondria are everywhere

But the biodistribution of different toxins is not the same

Flueroquinolone antibiotics can present with crippling fatigue and symptoms similar to CFS/ME or fibromyalgia

But more commonly with connective tissue and vascular damage

But the mechanism appears to be similar

They disrupt the mitochondria just like they are supposed to disrupt bacterias replication

Causing catastrophic and potentially fatal events

Once upon a time, Ciprofloxacin was the alternative in my medical treatment protocols to anyone with a known penicillin allergy

I hope that has changed

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